Post here about the current game your playing or even talk about games from your RPG past.Maybe even the first RPG you played that got you hooked.

Currently i am playing Star Ocean The Last Hope and it is great so far the graphics are awesome the character style and level design remind me alot of Xenosaga.
I would recommend this game to any RPG fan.

In the beginning i think the first RPG i played was probably Phantasy Star 1 at least i think it was part 1 its been so long i can't remember.But from there on out i have played every RPG i could get my hands on most good and a few horrible games here and there.

I love RPG's and am a huge Final Fantasy fan. I am currently playing Eternal Sonata on the 360 and starting Star Ocean on the PSP. I've never played a Star Ocean game before. The first RPG I played was Final Fantasy IX and I was hooked.

I can't remember the first RPG that I played. It was on the Genesis through the Sega Channel. However, I wasn't really into RPGs back then.

The RPG that got me into RPGs was The Legend of Dragoon on the PS1. I really liked the combo system, they used in the battles.

When I was younger and in the NES era I didn't really have patience for RPG's but I really enjoyed action games with RPG elements. I did have friends that played stuff like FF, Dragon Warrior, etc. but those used to bore me.

The first RPG I really enjoyed/got hooked on was the first Shining Force for Genesis (I think I was about 12). The rental copy we played had a bad battery so after playing 6 hours straight and turning the game off yielded a nasty reset... but we learned from that and beat it without turning the system off.

I suppose I collect RPG's more than I enjoy playing RPG's as there's not all that many RPG's I have that much fun with (although it's the majority of what I play). I can say that when I do get hooked really hard I can take down a 40-hour RPG in about 3-4 days. I rarely do all the side/bonus quests but will on occasion (usually my 2nd time playing the game). I generally prefer turn-based RPG's to strategy RPG's as I find positional combat to be tedious and slow. Grandia II probably had my favorite combat system.

RPG's that I would say I enjoyed a lot: FF7, FF10, Rogue Galaxy, dot.Hack G.U., and Xenosaga.

The main thing that seems to separate me from most RPG players is that I tend to blow through games really fast my first time through, usually leading to ridiculously hard boss fights at the end because my characters are too low level. e.g. FF7 28 hours, FF10 32 hours, Xenosaga II 16 hours, etc. My second time through a game is when I go and get everything. I have quite a few games in my "to play" pile.

On PS2

FFX-2, Champions of Norrath, Champions Return to Arms,Xenosaga III (need to start first two),GITS (not finished)

On Xbox

Morrowind Elder Scrolls III (Game of the year ed), Deus Ex Invisible War

Fallout3. Good God, I love this game. The game often enough will play out like a first person shooter, but the game offers so much more. I've put 80+ hours into this game. Know how much of the world map I've explored? Barely 1/3rd. Just like Stefanie, I have the most fun scouring every corner of every area I come across. The primary mission is available to those that want it, but the primary mission is not even close to a 50th of what all the game offers. I can not recommend highly enough that people play this game. An FPS RPG might sound really strange, but it works. ..Better than any other RPG I've played prior. While the game has incredible depth, my only hope is that Bethesda either further delves into Fallout, or that they again take this exact same formula to a new world. I'd say that the element that makes Fallout3 the perfect ideal RPG is freedom. While your typical RPG may have an incredible main story line, typically, while a few distractions may exist, everything funnels your progress in a very obvious manner toward you progressing forward. In Fallout3, right from the start, you are free to explore in any direction, in any town, & wherever you go, there will absolutely be adventure. The freedom to ignore the main quest & role play your character anyway you see fit.
Eventually, I am looking forward to playing Oblivion. I already have the game on my shelf, but I hardly can even consider playing it before I find myself full after Fallout3 (If that's even possible).

While the Zelda series is typically thought of as purely an adventure game, I'd say there's also strong RPG elements: great story, lots of characters with stories to tell & quests to offer, etc. I do love most Zelda titles.

Final Fantasy VII, as with most of you, was/is a huge favorite of mine. I loved Secret Of Evermore.. I think lately I may not have quite the amount of patience for retro RPG style games as I used to. It seems to have been quite a while since I last played a turn based RPG game. .. I suppose I'll know whether or not I still like them when FFXIII comes out, as I'll be diving head first into it without doubt.

As soon as Tales Of Vesperia gets a price dip I'll be picking it up. I loved Symphonia.

i love rpgs i want to get the psp but i have no idea what kind of rpgs that are out for psp

Hehe, yah, that's how most RPG'ers tend to play RPG's. If/when I play them a second time I tend to go and do more. e.g. my second time through FF10 I had like 132 hours played, got every ultimate weapon and everyone was at 9999hp and 999mp (I didn't go as far as doing the monster arena until everyone had gear that let them go beyond those numbers nor clear out the sphere grid and replace all +1's with +4's). Seems like I marathon RPG's like I do anime... can't wait to see what happens next so I just keep going.



There's quite a few if you include ports. One of the nice bonuses for PSP is the remote play function if you have a PS3.

If you liked Final Fantasy VII then one of the best RPG's is on the PSP. Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core. This game completely spoiled me for gaming for a while because nothing else looked promising afterwards. While the battle system isn't terrific the story is absolutely top notch. I have never cried while playing a game, but this one had me crying and cursing Square Enix when it ended, and just hearing the music afterwards made me feel sad. It was great! :P



Oh me too! I love Tales games. Symphonia was such a sweet little rip off of FFX in the beginning but developed into a really great game. I haven't gotten the sequel yet though.

The first RPG I played was Dragon Warrior. I wouldn't say I was hooked until Final Fantasy though, which was a far more complicated and fun experience (the PSX port remains one of my favorite games. Sure it's basic, but there are so many different ways to go through the game!).

I'm currently playing Star Ocean: Second Evolution, which is a fairly nice upgraded port from the PSX version (which happened to be my favorite PSX RPG other than maybe Valkyrie Profile). My most recently finished RPG was Ar Tonelico II, which other than the completely awful localization was totally awesome.

I'm sort of torn though because I don't know if I should pick up a Nintendo DS or an Xbox 360 first (I'm missing so many awesome RPGs. Sure the PSP has some good ones like hopefully the Growlanser port in the future, but there are so many good ones I can't play yet due to not getting more into the current generation of systems). /sigh

To this day, the Lunar series (Lunar Silver Star Story and Lunar Eternal Blue... along with all of the terrible remakes released since lol) remain my favorite games of all time. Technically these are very subpar RPGs but the story remains one of the best that I've played through.

I miss getting into RPGs, I picked up the Star Ocean series at one point but never got around to actually finishing it.

How was Star Ocean? I have wanted to try that one for a while but never got around to it.

The first one's fairly basic. It's only around 25 hours (more like 15 if you ignore optional content). The plot's pretty poor compared to comparable SNES games and while the remake does add a few interesting tidbits, it isn't a huge leap up. The combat system is rather nice, but because the game is so easy that you won't appreciate it too much (although there is a set of saves from a fan that unlocks two additional difficulties).

Some people seem to like it a lot though, so I'm not sure what they liked in it compared to the sequels (I much preferred the second and third to it in that order).

So it's more like a FF/Xenosaga style game play?

I got about halfway through Star Ocean IV and found the game to be a very enjoyable experience. Most of the cut scenes are noticably less than perfect but in terms of story, game play, music, etc it was well worth my time.

The battle is real time using various button combos to unleash your various special attacks (which you will become increasingly dependent on naturally). I found this to be a bit of a bother since when I'm battling a boss the last thing I want to be thinking about is making sure I'm hitting the right button pattern at the right split second to dodge that fatal boss offensive. Unfortunately my exp with next gen RPGs is limited so I can't find a proper comparison.

Yes and no. Yes in that the remakes and recent titles take up a narrative style similar to Xenosaga (though to a much smaller scale). No in that the battle system is most similar to the Tales of series (it's a little bit less active than the Tales of series but is quite similar).

Im getting a Nintendo DS this week just for a few RPG's on it namely the release of the new Suikoden on DS this month i have beaten all the Suikoden's in the series and i don't plan on missing one.

Also Fallout 3 has taken a good chunk out of my life i have beaten that game 6 times now and my current character has over 100+ hrs played.

And Stefanie did you know there releasing FF XIII on 360 its no longer a PS3 exclusive and that was one of the only games currently that made me want to buy a PS3 but i already have a 360 and now i don't see the point lol.

While this is true, Versus is still just for PS3 and so far looks more promising from what little has been shown. Besides, I have a feeling FF XIII is going to be like a 6 DVD game or something...

Having said that, I know that with the announcement there isn't really something that makes me want to get a PS3 beyond the Blu-ray compatibility, at least for now.

Waiting for the DSi will only cause a 1 month delay.
M4M: I can recommend some great PS3 exclusives,... but not RPGs, which I'd assume is your primary interest.

I still treat my PS3 as a PS2.5 considering I mainly play PS1/PS2 games on it. I actually have 2 of the 60gb versions as I wanted to make sure I had full backwards compatibility. One I bought used and the other I paid for on store credit trading in collectible RPG's and fanboy games (ran me around $190 of actual money spent to get the $500 store credit).

I wouldn't have purchased a 360 probably as everyone I know has gone through at least 2 of them with the most I know of from 1 person is having to get it replaced 6 times (currently on their 7th).

I have Star Ocean The Last Hope for the 360 and it is awesome the graphics and detail blow my mind and the characters remind me alot of the Xenosaga series...

If you have a 360 i suggest you pick it up...

I think i own every RPG that is currently out for the 360 right now im hoping they will release a Fallout 3 Game of the Year edition soon they said they would releae one eventually i can't wait...

With the Oblivion GOTY edition, it seems a shoe in.

This is exactly one of the reasons why I've been waiting on the 360. It has a lot of RPGs but the system itself seems to be the most unpredictable console yet. I'm hoping by the time I make the leap that the jasper version that "fixes" the ring of death will be out.

I have never had any problems out of my 360 i have owned 3 of them 2 i still have and one i sold to a friend of mine i have one for use when i am home and one for use when i am at work...
And i have had no problems out of any of them even the one i sold my friend still works and he smokes alot and never dusts it and he owns 6 house dogs so you know that thing is full of hair but it still works and its one of the first model 360's i got it on the launch date...
I think the newer 360 don't die that was just a problem with the old models but even the older PS3 would burn up and some of the first Wii's didn't work at all my cousin had his first PS3 for about a month and it actually got so hot inside it burnt out you could smell the burn in it.
But he also has a first model 360 that he had to send back to get repaired like 3 or 4 times...

Stef - Do me a favor & play Fallout 3. Wait for an awesome price/sale if you want, but do play it.
I'd very much like to hear your perspective.

I don't want to create an image of it being something that nothing could possibly live up to.. But yes,.. it is that good.

Perhaps digging around for GOTY edition news would be best for you, if you don't mind being patient.
The 360 is presently receiving several exclusive downloadable content updates (3 total, at minimum).
Were a GOTY edition to be released on PS3, it would include these updates.

I've known a few people who have played Fallout 3 without playing the first two of the franchise and still managed to become endlessly addicted to it. I think that having the first two or three games under your belt will help with knowing some of the history and inside jokes that get spread out, but you can still enjoy it otherwise.

You'll be fine without having played either of its predecessors. Fallout 3 is not so much a sequel as an entirely new game set within the world created for the previous games (think of it as the difference between the '89 Batman movie and Batman Begins, a reboot to the franchise, not a sequel.) That isn't to say there are not plenty of goodies for long time fans of the series, but new players can jump in and nothing will be confusing/out of place.

Kinda, but it's the same world.
It seemed to me that with the Final Fantasy series each game took place in a new world with new cities/ countries/ continents/ history, the only link being character classes, chocobos, & moogles.
With the Fallout series characters, history, cities, along with races & character types transition forward into the newest iteration.
Like previously stated though, only ingame jokes & self referencing material will be lost. No big deal.

Example: You find the suit previously belonging to the hero of the original along with an unimportant note that has the sole purpose of creating a smug smile for those "in the know". Nothing is lost for not gettting such a joke, so no biggie.

Chocobos... lol

Those chocobo races at the Gold Saucer were something else.

Navarre is going to be releasing the first three Fallout games (1, 2, and Tactics) in a $19.99 compilation late April, so if you're like me and haven't gotten around to it, you can pick them up for a steal. Most people I've heard from who played them consider the first two Fallout games to be basically the best computer RPGs out there.

PC

I can't seem to put Tales of Vesperia down i have beaten it twice and im currently lvl 200 and im grinding my Attack Power witht he Fell Arms and getting a few missed titles,sidequest ect.

I have yet to use the Fell Arms in any of the Tales games. I've collected them, but never had the patience to use them enough to get any good stats from them before finishing the game.

They were already buffed pretty high when i got them activated because i spent countless hours grinding to lvl 200 and the more kills you have the stronger the fell arms get.
Right now Yuri on my main save has an Attack Power of over 11,000 with the fell arms he can one hit kill almost everything in the game.
Also i finally did that stupid dog marking sidequest it took forever to find all those spots.Anyone who has played this game and done the dog mark quest knows what i am talking about...

I picked up Star Ocean 4 this weekend. Loaded it up and played for about 20 minutes. There is already a lot going on just with the combat system. I didn't have much time to play it, but it seems like it is going to be fun.

Part of the reason I didn't spend much time on SO4 was because I wanted to beat Infinite Undiscovery, another Square-Enix/Tri-Ace game (where I was sitting right outside the final dungeon.) I spent another couple of hours and finished off the game. I was happy with it. Review scores on this game were actually fairly low but I'm not entirely sure why. I had a lot of fun with it.

So they don't get stronger based on kills you make with that weapon, rather kills you make with that character?? Well that would certainly change things.

nope its based on every kill you ever made with any weapon.
Also it pays to switch and use each character because i didn't use Karol at all and his Fell Arms actually dropped his Attack Power alot compared to the weapon he currently had...

I hope you like cut scenes because Star Ocean is full of them this is another thing that makes me think of Xenosaga when i play this game.
I remember when i beat Xenosaga 1 and my cousin asked me if i liked it i told him it was a great movie.lol all those cut scenes.
But the Star Ocean game is really good im on the third disc now i can only play it on the weekends because of work...

I went ahead & picked up Oblivion for the 360 last Tuesday. I had already gotten it for the PS3 but, having played Fallout 3 on the 360, I realized what a huge difference it makes to the experience of the game having achievments/trophies available. While on one hand they are silly & are typically used for mere bragging rights, I found that, for Fallout, they helped guide me a little bit in what I should try to do in a world that offered so incredibly much.
I can't say when I'll have a chance to dive into Oblivion, with all of the BBC series, anime, & RE5 on my plate, not to mention still Fallout 3,.. but I am certainly looking forward to and expecting an excellent game.

Yeah, Xenosaga had a few cut scenes :P
It's strange how different the 3 Xenosaga games were to one another, both in style, difficulty, etc.
Considering that it was supposed to be 6 games and it got condensed to 3, 3 ended up with 4 games worth of story crammed into it. I can't remember which part it was (I think 3) where they started forcing you to have to hit a button to advance dialogue during a 15 minute cut scene.

Xenogears was win for me, when Xenosaga came out I think I was crying. There's a lot of tie-ins, even tho there isn't supposed to be.

I went ahead and took care of the Anchorage DLC in Fallout after having been pushing it off.
Lots of fun. I'm looking forward to The Pitt.

Since we're talking RPG's, does anyone know if there is a third Champions of Norrath? While i enjoyed the first one a lot more than the second i was wondering if there was a continuation of the series or not?

Also wasn't there at one time supposed to be a Star Wars : Knights of the Old Republic 3? I thought that i remmember reading that a while back and looking forward to it, and then nothing. Was it just rumors?

As far as the Star Wars game goes i do know there releasing a MMO called Star Wars Knights of the Republic.
But i have also heard that there is going to be a seperate title for the Knights of the Old Republic series just like the other games 1-player...

I am also a fan of RPG's. My first RPG game was Secret of Mana on the Super Nintendo. After I played that game, I was hooked and begin to look for the RPG's genre.

Here is a list of some of my favorite RPG's aside from Secret of Mana:
-Chrono Trigger
-Chrono Cross
-Final Fantasy VII
-Suikoden series (especially I & II)
-Shadow Hearts series (especially 1)
-Tales of Destiny
-Radiata Stories
-Romance of the Three Kingdoms series
-Kingdom Hearts I & II
-Shin Megami Tensei series (especially Persona 3)

Yeah, Secret of Mana for the SNES was, that I can remember, the first RPG I played. Back then i was calling it May-nuh instead of how it is pronounced Man-uh.

As for the list of RPGs I currently own.
Secret of Mana (SNES) (Yes I still own the Cartridge, AND the SNES, and works perfectly )
Star Ocean The Second Story (PS1)
Vagrant Story (PS1)
Xenogears (PS1)
Legend of Mana (PS1)
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Final Fantasy VIII (PS1) (sadly I traded-in the others 7, 9, 10, 10-2, but this was when I had no job, and I'm not really looking to buy old games anymore)
Children of Mana (DS)
Odin Sphere (PS2)
Rogue Galaxy (PS2)
Wild Arms 3(PS2)
Final Fantasy XII (PS2)
Drakengard 2 (PS2) (played the first one, but dont have it anymore )
Dawn of Mana (PS2)
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria (PS2) (OMG this game was and still is awesome, even if the voice acting could be better)
Persona 3 (PS2)
Persona 3: FES (PS2)
Persona 4 (PS2)
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne (PS2)
Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs The Souless Army (PS2)
Digital Devil Saga 1 (PS2)
Digital Devil Saga 2 (PS2)
MS Saga: A New Dawn (PS2) (Ok, the game mechanics in here were awesome, you got go mix and match different MS parts and play with a totally weird but cool looking mobile suit. Sadly tho, it seemed more pointed towards 5-10 year olds than me)
Dark Cloud (PS2) (Oddly enough I had the second one first,but ended up trading that one in for this one, and was disappointed.)
Tales of The Abyss (PS2)
Tales of Legendia (PS2)
Chaos Wars (PS2)
Soul Nomad & the World Eaters (PS2)
Shadow Hearts (PS2) (Had this one third)
Shadow Hearts Covenant (PS2) (Had this one first)
Shadow Hearts From The New World (PS2) (Had this one second)
Xenosaga I (PS2)
Xenosaga II (PS2)
Xenosaga III (PS2) (Makes me so angry the did the same thing with Xenosaga as the did with Xenogears. They took the last part and compressed it. So sad how such a good long game winds up being shortened. I woulda SO bought it if it came out even as 12 parts.)
Suikoden V (PS2) (No this series of games was awesome, I had, I think, III and IV at one time. I do have the graphic novels for III which was a cool way of revisiting a nice game.)
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis (PS2) (Played it, still aint beat it, dont plan on playing it anymore OR beating it LOL.)
.Hack//GU Vol.01-03 (PS2) (I had the original .hack// series of games for the PS2, but that was back in school, and I was to familiar with trading in games back then.)
Grandia III (PS2) (I had Grandia II first)
Unlimited Saga (PS2) (now there was a PS1 game before this that was WAY cooler)
Magna Carta (PS2) (I got the deluxe edition with this :), the artbook was so nice! Hyung Tae Kim rulez :D)
Okami (PS2) (Dunno if this is an RPG, I believe so, but its a very nice game)
Fokelore (PS3) (Interesting, but when I bought it I still had alot of anime being watched, and just lost interest in it somewhere down the road, will probably never pick it back up.)
Eternal Sonata (PS3) (Nice game overall, but its another case of a game being pointed at a younger age group than the one I'm in, I still beat it tho :P. )

Shadow Hearts is the only series I miss more.

Anyone interseted in Sakura Wars ?

Hopefully it will be a good game, then I'll get it.

Shadow Hearts was a great series but widely overlooked...
Did you ever play the Koudelka game for PS1 it was the true first game in the series.
You play as alot of side characters from the first game even Albert...

Yes because Sakura Wars in any form is awesome. No because NISA wrenched out my heart and stomped on it with the Ar Tonelico II localization. I have to admit though, if they toss in a limited OST for the preorder, I'll probably be on it anyway.



No. The reviews didn't give me a whole lot of hope for the game. After playing the first SH (which likewise had a lot of negative reviews), I wish I did. I'll get around to it at some point though.

I like Final Fantasy...you know it has the never ending fantasy..there is no such thing final...I hope because I love playing the games because they are all unique and I love watching the cut scenes.

I've been thinking about getting Cross Edge: Anyone else?

FFVII Is available on the PSN store for 9.99 right now. I'm downloading the E3 Sony press conference video, a Pixel Junk Shooter trailer, & FFVII right now.

Glee!

No! It's just going to be the PS1 version uploaded on the PSN.

it's 720p, so it doesn't look like complete crap. The graphics aren't really updated for HD, they're simply polished a little so it doesn't look too horribly ugly.

While the spoiler has no effect on me personally & the game is old as hell,... That Aeris plot point is still a pretty big give away for anyone that has yet to play the game.

There's been much talk about a remake with hd graphics ever since the PS3 was originally anounced.

Primarily due to this video:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sony-press-final-fantasy/5846

Will it ever happen? Doubtful.
We can always hope.

I've been hoping for a re-make of FFVII since that trailer first came out. I also saw an article once that showed that a major portion of fan mail Square Enix USA receives is requests for information about potential remake of FFVII. We all want it, but they won't give it.

LOL Stefanie. Cloud in a dress is one of the things I think about when I think of a re-make. That whole sequence would be hilarious.

poor stephony, you've got it so tough.

Yeah, I don't having anything going on tomorrow untill 1pm.

*sigh* I've been making loose plans with a girl lately but she doesn't have an opperable cellular, so it's difficult to keep up with the progress of said plans. I've basically just been staying up incredibly late with as many venues for communication open as possible & with my availability as open as possible.
This basically means that I'm not allowing myself to get knee deep into any games, movies, or anime series. Also that I've been primarily keeping around the home (the internet is a great communications tool for us)

You are of course correct.
Except for chess club. Chess club is always worth ditching in order to play the newest/awesome games or to revisit old awesome games.

I don't have the 360 or PS3 just yet. Though lately i have been starting to lean to the PS3. Origianlly i wanted the 360 since it had Oblivion for it. I see now that it's also for the PS3, is there a big difference in graphics, gameplay, etc., between the two or is it very minor details? Has anyone seen or compared the two?

As far as Oblivion goes, no real differences either way. I've played the game on both systems and can't recall one being worse than the other.

I own both.
My PS3 gets wayyyyyyyyy more play than my 360.

I own a PS3 and it was a very good decision since I can play games on it and watch Blu-ray movies!

Final Fantasy VII was my first and favorite RPG (like we didn't see that one coming...) I mean the whole game was just an emotional roller coaster for me, I think I might have even been in love w/ Aeris just a bit; I took it quite personally when Sephiroth killed her. No other game has ever had me as emotionally involved to this day.
A close second however was Xenogears, I hated the Xenosaga series.
Xenogears was an excellent game though. Some people couldn't get past the story telling but I loved it and the hand-to-hand combat/combo system was fantastic especially at a time when RPG's were all swords.

FF XIII will be amazing, I was watching some gameplay for it at E3 and, WOW... Seriously.

I agree w/ you most definitely on Seph... He's my all time favorite villain because of that scene alone and he is kind of sexy (no homo) All of the Turks were a joke with the exception of Tseung though and maybe Reno. Either way at the end of the day they were like the Goldar character on Power Rangers, when you first meet him he's beating the crap out of the Rangers then after awhile he was just comic relief, that just how I felt about the Turks after awhile. Over confident and under talented.

Have any of you played Crisis Core? What a terrific addition to the story of FFVII. It really hits you what a tragedy this story is. When you play through and think about these poor characters and all they still have to live through in the future it's heartbreaking.

Speaking of the PSP Go. I don't know how I feel about downloadable games. I have a few on my Wii and they're ok. But I like having a physical game on my shelf know what I mean? I guess it's just an idea I'd have to get used to.

Or you can just go with the PSP 3000 (the current model) and do both. You just need to use Memory Sticks for the digital content.

The rpg that really started me on the path of RPG fandom was Lunar the Silver Star, for the sega cd. Hell, it was because of that game that I met my best friend in the world. Anyways... I had played Dragon (Drag-On) Warrior for the nes, but there was something missing. Lunar was flawed, but so enjoyable. The characters, the humour... damn good fun. Then Lunar 2 Eternal Blue came out, and that was it. RPG perfection, at least for me.

The remakes for the ps1 were good, but aren't as good as the originals.

I haven't noticed the music in it even when I've been playing with the volume up (take from that what you will about the music.) As for the graphics, I was impressed by them. They are very good and the cutscenes and summons look spectacular.

I'm only a few hours into the game though (just to the point where I am meeting Aerith for the first time.)

Lunar is an awesome game. I never got a chance to play the second one, but I loved the first one. Personally I thought the Playstation remake/port was better than the original.

The Legend of Dragoon on PS1, very under-rated...

The graphics are beautiful. Really great quality, of course the fmv's are to die for. As for the music, I really enjoyed it. Keep in mind that some of the major themes from FFVII are repeated in this game, but there are some new themes as well, and the old ones (example: Aeriths Theme) got updated and revised enough to make them fresh. Aeriths theme got a really pretty acoustic guitar solo, and it is a blast to hear the Bombing Mission music with full orchestra. The final songs in the game are fantastic, they just squeeze the tears right out of you.

I am going back and beating all 3 Xenosaga games in a order.
The first time i beat them was when each title released so the story got kinda foggy in between release dates.
Now im just going to beat them all one after the other.

Its unlikely to be rereleased anytime soon, unfortunately. The company that released and localized Lunar 1 and 2 (both sega cd and psx remakes) died several years ago. The franchise has been in limbo for some time, save a few mediocre handheld rpgs published by Ubisoft. Such a shame. Brilliant series. One of the earliest rpgs that had anime in it that was ACTUALLY GOOD.

If you are looking for a comparable rpg experience, you might want to look for the Grandia games for the ps2. Same team that did them made the lunar games. They are a bit rare, but probably easier to find then the Lunar games.

Any opinions on The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion?


First off, I do intend to immerse myself in Fallout 3, eventually. It's a little different than what I'm used to, and I was a bit discouraged with my character's limitations in the beginning, but I do like what I've seen of the game, and I will return to it. I realize that it has more potential than I've been able to see so far.

At the moment, I'm still caught up in Demon's Souls (which I gushed over in post #10640, above), but I am seriously considering getting The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (I'll probably get the "Game Of The Year" version for the PS3). Has anyone actually played this game, yet? I've read all of the reviews, including the gripes about the glitches, but I'm just curious as to whether anyone here has an opinion about it (for any system).

Same here. If anyone has anything on this do tell.

I remember when it first came out, i went to the Bethesda forum boards and looked at what others were saying about it and it was actually split down the middle between this and Morrowind Elder Scrolls III. At that time if i remember right was that Oblivion didn't have the same feel as Elder Scrolls III, so i don't know if it was a game that you just had to play and get used to or if it was something else. So any input will help.

Weren't the old Elder Scrolls games just gauntlet running hack & slash/magic using linear dungeon crawling?

Oblivion, from everything that I've heard, much like Fallout but without the VATS system, offers complete freedom in a much more indepth RPG world compared to previous Elder Scrolls.

If you are interested in a copy of Folklore I have one that I would let go for a couple bucks+shipping. I only ever got a few hours into it, and it seemed interesting but I doubt I'll ever really play any more of it.

I don't know if they changed anything from the original to when they came out with the GOTY edition for the x-box(which included Bloomoon and Tribunal expansions), but you seem to have plenty of freedom to play around in the game itself. Maybe in Oblivion they expanded on that "freedom" aspect a little more than origianlly, i don't know. That's one of the things i'm curious about.

I know that a friend of mine is absolutely in love with the game.

Did they play the original Morrowind? Any comparisons?

Elder Scrolls 1 & 2 were nothing like 3 & 4 they had no free roam and were more like first person RPG's i can't remember if the first two games were turn based or not.
But then Elder Scrolls 3 Morrowind came out and it was awesome i think i put thousands of hours of gameplay into that game.
The Elder Scrolls 4 Oblivion came out and i know i have thousands of hours of gameplay on that one.
I have 5 characters on there each with over 200HRs of game time on each save.

Yeah i know the feeling, since i'm currently in the middle of a game right now!

I just played about 3 or so hours of Oblivion.
..I'd say that Fallout is far superior/more interesring/faster paced.

You can absolutely see how Oblivion had a strong impact on Fallout, but it just seems that with Fallout they managed to finetune a few areas of gameplay.
I'll play some more of it later.

So it's safe to say that if you liked Morrowind you'll like Oblivion?

Yes if you liked Morrowind you will fall in love with Oblivion and spend countless hrs on it doing quests until your eyes bleed.

Cool!

The only times a game have ever actually made me bleed was.
Street Fighter Alpha 3 i moved my thumbs so fast playing it on the hardest setting that there was blood on the controller and my thumbs were missing most of the skin.
After that i needed a good RPG so i wouldn't have to smash buttons fast.

And also with that new UFC game they have a thing were you spin the joy stick to get out of submissions i used the palm of my hand and did it so fast that my hand has 4 tiny holes of skin missing.
And this was recent i still have the marks on my hand.
lol once again i am playing a nice RPG to heal my wounds.

lol good old bunker.
I lock myself away every time a new RPG comes out i play it nonstop until i beat it and if it is good enough i beat it again.
Normally three times is all i will beat one game unless it has multi-endings or is just that good that i want to beat it again.

I don't know, maybe you should change your avatar to Konata Izumi? Would that be a better fit?

My thumbs haven't bled since I was in grade school. the skin on my thumbs is so tough I can play games for hours on end without feeling a thing.

I started with Final Fantasy - NES/Gameboy era. I played the original FF on NES and Legends on Gameboy and have been a fan ever since.

I am currently playing FFI again, and plan on playing 2-X2 once I finish, skipping III cause I don't have a DS. It's been ages since I have played many of them.

Other RPGs I have played an enjoyed over the years, off the top of my head:

The secret of Mana
Illusion of Gaia
Chrono Trigger/cross
Dragon Warrior
Lunar: The silver Star Story
Breath of Fire I-III
Phantasy Star I
FFXII

God, I'm drawing a blank, there has to be more. O_o

You're missing out on some pretty good RPGs.

first RPG was ff7 loved it then ff8, 9, 10, 12 plus the legend of dragoon, gauntlet: seven sorrows.

My first RPG was Final Fantasy VII. I was watching my friend play and I thought it was stupid just by watching the game play (though it is boring watching someone else play). He told me to try it anyways so I did.
Turned out I loved it completly and played it several times in a row (spent my whole 7th grade summer the first time doing every side story, quest, etc.). I think Final Fantasy VII lead me to watching anime as well.
Now if my stuff would just get here (in shipment from Okinawa) I could play the Final Fantasy XIII demo I bought when I was in Tokyo and then watch FF: Advent Children on Blue Ray - my first Blue Ray purchase!
I owe a lot to Final Fantasy VII. Arigatou Gozaimasu!

If you like action RPGS, my current recommendation is Shin Megami Tensei Devil Summoner 2. The combat system is semi- real time action, and there are HEAVY rpg elements. Recruiting demons through negotiation, raising their skills and levels up, and fusing them together to make new demons is quite addicting. It's sort of like a demonic Pokemon game. Lots of side quests and multiple endings add to the replay value as well. Typical for the MegaTen games.

For people who are familiar with the Shin Megami Tensei games, the demon fusion is almost, but not quite, as in depth as it was in Nocturne.

They are called Action RPGs.

I've preferred turn based because I can be more strategic. This preference is in part due to a long battle with carpal tunnel. DS games that are strictly stylus control give me fits. As much as I loved Dawn of Sorrow, for instance, the stylus nonsense almost made me not want to finish the game because the last pattern was devilishly hard for me.

I'm not unfamiliar with that term, but I'm trying to be descriptive here.

Also, I'm not really looking for suggestions, I just wondered which style you guys prefer. I'm an adventure player at heart, but I occasioanlly dabble in RPGs. As the hardware/software has improved over the years, I've noticed a blurring of the lines. Many games today incorporate the best elements of both, and that can be either a good or bad trend, depending on your tastes.

I tend to prefer traditional turn-based RPG's, but it's more about having a good story and a combat system that doesn't piss me off more than anything else. broken, glitched, tedious, or downright stupid combat systems make games not enjoyable for me, as do stupid AI partners in games that are often overly-tedious without having some AI controlled characters.

In terms of combat systems, I tend to separate action RPG's from instanced real-time combat RPG's, even if fighting is the same style, the feel is way different. One thing about anything with real-time combat is that for me, the controls have to respond like an action game... not like a laggy 8-bit POS. If it brings back horrible memories of the clunkiness of the original Samurai Showdown, I end up losing interest. I was a professional FPS PC gamer in the 90's and was big into twitch games, so I struggle when I pop in something like Legend of Mana and have to wait for the animations to cycle to do anything.

My two favorite real-time combat RPG's in recent memory are Rogue Galaxy and the dot.Hack G.U. series. Both use cel-shaded engines and have responsive (although somewhat lagged video during spam) controls.

It's easier to fall asleep at 4am while playing a game when it's traditional turn-based combat since you can wake up and still be alive.

Picked up a game for ps2 (an older one, yes) called Extermination. So far i just don't know what to think. And the controls...

That's the game that was kinda like an odd version of Resident Evil wasn't it?
If that is the same game i use to have it way back in the day i can kinda remember the controls being kinda a mess but it was still an ok game...

I'm wondering which set of controls are worse right now those or that of Tomb Raider : Angel of Darkness....

Hopefully i'll have more patience with it and see how it goes. As for the story it seems a fairly decent storyline.

The current RPGs I'm playing are Atelier Iris 3(PS2), Ar Tonelico 1(PS2), and Luminous Arc 1(DS).

Here are some of my all-time favorite RPGs that I have played...

Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy 4 & 6
Grandia II
Skies of Arcadia
Lunar: The Silver Star
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete
Xenogears
Secret of Mana
Atelier Iris 2
Luminous Arc 2
Dragon Quest 4, 5, 7,and 8
Wild Arms 1 & 5
Breath of Fire 1, 2, and 4
Hoshigami

The original Fallout games are now all available on STEAM.
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/2008/ at very decent prices!

STEAM is pretty awesome, you should certainly consider giving it a shot.

I love Xenosaga.

Xenosaga was pretty good. One that has some decent replay value.

Final Fantasy X-2 i played through a couple of times and still have to get a few things. Just need to find some time to sit down and play it.

I am a great fan of The Legend of Dragoon! It is my favourite RPG game!

That one drove me nuts trying to get 100% completion. I HAD to have the perfect ending.

Remember the stupid part were you had to listen to the old man talk for 15minutes without hitting a button to get a % of game complete i hated that part.

Boy do I remember that nonsense. I also had trouble triggering one conversation very late in the game and I had to go in and out of a stupid door for an hour trying to make him talk to me. Thank goodness he finally did. I almost quit.

What does that say about me that I wasted an hour of my life on that just to see if Tidus and Yuna get back together. LOL

I love RPG's.

Yeah, i still need to get a piece for Rikku (or is it Paine's) mecha and even consulting the strategy guide and still having trouble trying to get it.

Yes, RPG's are fun tho if it was a shooter i would have left it long ago.

I just thought of another time i wanted to smash something over an RPG.
I was playing Final Fantasy 12 for the first time and i had already made it a little bit into the game so i figured for fun lets look in the guide and see what the strongest weapons are.
So i did that i read about the Zodiac Spear (I think that is what it was called).
And to get it there are certain treasure chests you are not suppose to open throughout the game as my luck would have it i had just came from the area with the first chest you aren't suppose to open and i had already opened it.
If i had only looked at my guide a save point earlier lol...

Xenosaga was great, and I also loved playing Xenogears. Which I still have . I had to buy it off of Ebay, but when I did it was brand new.