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#699 - 05/13/08 10:34 AM rental Insurance
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bearing in mind that pretty much all who browse here are otaku and have pimping collections of varying degree, it always brings to mind the eternal question: are u insured?
i rent, so i have rental insurance to cover all my valuables and collectables. it isn't expensive, and far cheaper than trying to pay for everything out of my pocket should something bad happen.
i like to bring the question up because it always amazes me how many i end up hearing from who don't have rental (or home) insurance. i dun ask to be snooty, but because i care. shoot. i didn't know about rental insurance until mom asked me one day many years ago. my reply: "what's rental insurance? o_o"

thoughts? input? etc?

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#701 - 05/13/08 01:33 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: otakuden]
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I have coverage for my DVDs. Everything else of any value I have is in the car and my show truck that both have full coverage all their own. All of my TVs are more then 16 years old. I guess that I should get this computer tacked on. I wasn't worried about my old one because I built it back in 02, but I built this one about 3 months ago. hummmmmmmm
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#707 - 05/14/08 12:31 AM Re: rental Insurance [Re: otakuden]
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I have insurance and I advise people to check on if their collection is actually fully covered. I have to pay extra for extended coverage for electronics and media. Most renters and homeowners have caps for different catagorties.

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#712 - 05/14/08 07:58 AM Re: rental Insurance [Re: Tom Kinnen]
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Originally Posted By: Tom Kinnen
I have insurance and I advise people to check on if their collection is actually fully covered. I have to pay extra for extended coverage for electronics and media. Most renters and homeowners have caps for different catagorties.


ditto. i'm getting a separate coverage policy for my figures and other exclusive/rare/limited collectibles. after that, i'll be double checking on electronics. i have to inventory, itemize, and get a value for everything. again. it's not hard, just painstaking -.-

but def worth it in the long run.

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#733 - 05/14/08 11:24 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: otakuden]
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I've been pondering this issue for some time as well but I always deadlock on how to place a value on those nearly impossible to replace items like figures or rather rare DVDs. Sure I can tack $20 on the DVDs and $50-$75 on the figures but I'm certain that I have some items that would cost significantly more than retail to replace at this point.

Other than scouring auction sites, is there a consolidated source of media valuations that better reflects the going price for rarities? Can media even be insured beyond its retail value?

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#737 - 05/14/08 11:49 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: Tsunami3k]
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Originally Posted By: Tsunami3k
Other than scouring auction sites, is there a consolidated source of media valuations that better reflects the going price for rarities? Can media even be insured beyond its retail value?


When I talked to my insurance guy he told me to just get a record of the UPC codes and then stick a MSRP for what it was new. Add all the prices together and that would give me a base amount to insure my collection for. He then told me to make sure that I keep a good record of what I have because as things go out of print they can rocket up in price. So if something ever were to happen then anything that is out of print they will add a "collector" percentage on top of the MSRP. The older the disk the higher the percentage.
It is really the best way to do it short of having to track down everything and figuring out a market value on it all should something happen. And I am cool with that because I know full well that only about 10% of my collection can even be bought again at this point so I will just take the money.
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#766 - 05/17/08 08:56 AM Re: rental Insurance [Re: long time lurker]
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Originally Posted By: long time lurker
When I talked to my insurance guy he told me to just get a record of the UPC codes and then stick a MSRP for what it was new. Add all the prices together and that would give me a base amount to insure my collection for. He then told me to make sure that I keep a good record of what I have because as things go out of print they can rocket up in price. So if something ever were to happen then anything that is out of print they will add a "collector" percentage on top of the MSRP.


that sounds about right from what i've been told by both State Farm who i had my rental insurance with previously, and currently, Liberty Mutual. itemize everything with their ISBN/UPC and original MSRP. also make sure to have pictures. it's always nice to have the pics to back up the documented itemized items. getting everything caught up is a PITA, but after that it's just a matter of keeping up with the new arrivals as they come in.
also, be sure to keep copies of your records in more than once place. personally, i keep my records in a safe deposit box and at a couple diff places.

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#767 - 05/17/08 10:54 AM Re: rental Insurance [Re: long time lurker]
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Originally Posted By: long time lurker
When I talked to my insurance guy he told me to just get a record of the UPC codes and then stick a MSRP for what it was new. Add all the prices together and that would give me a base amount to insure my collection for.

...That would take me a million years. Can't we just call an average MSRP of $20 a disc (sounds about right, accounting for the lower cost of collections and the fact that most of my DVDs were $30 msrp singles) and be done with it? =P

I considered adding a column to my spreadsheet at one point with original MSRP, but that would take a lot of research.
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#778 - 05/18/08 06:18 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: something]
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Originally Posted By: something
...That would take me a million years. Can't we just call an average MSRP of $20 a disc (sounds about right, accounting for the lower cost of collections and the fact that most of my DVDs were $30 msrp singles) and be done with it? =P

I considered adding a column to my spreadsheet at one point with original MSRP, but that would take a lot of research.


I'm sure your insurance company would be thrilled to pay you substantially less for your collection but the fact that you've still got to document it in some way combined with the size of your collection (which I assume is big given your concern about how long it would take) makes it sound substantial enough to warrant complete and accurate documentation.

I've got a decent sized collection and I've look at various methods of tracking beyond the basics I currently use. Check out the Tracking Your Collection thread for some very simple but powerful software packages for doing this. I've also looked into USB barcode scanners and decent ones can be had for $50. Combined cost of software and scanner puts you right around $75 for a setup that will shrink a weekend long project into an hour or so. If saving that much time doesn't already pay for itself then consider that if something happens to your collection then having cataloged just 8 titles at $30 MSRP instead of $20 will pay for both the scanner and software...and I'm sure you have far more than 8 titles.

Just something to consider but the numbers are definitely in your favor.

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#799 - 05/19/08 11:26 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: otakuden]
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Insurance, hmm confused I've always wondered about that. I do have alot of moneys worth of anime dvds. I'll definetly have to look that up in the near future. This past month I've had tornados flying past where I live and now that I''ve read this I believe I should look into it. How much are you guys paying for insurance on your collections, and also the figures and collectables.

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#807 - 05/20/08 12:40 AM Re: rental Insurance [Re: Alpha_Zeon]
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Because I have my policy with the same people as my car and truck I only pay $15 a month. I figured that 30 minutes worth of paycheck is worth covering my DVDs.
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#822 - 05/20/08 05:40 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: long time lurker]
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$15, does it vary depending on the size. \<--Stupid Question/ How big is your collection?

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#826 - 05/20/08 05:53 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: Alpha_Zeon]
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I have to send in an updated list every 6 months when I pay my policy. They said that anything that I add as long as it is recorded will be covered between the official updates. It jumped from $10 to $15 a wile back but I couldn't tell you at what point that was. But it was because of the size.

If you want to see my collection you can see part of it in the DVD collection thread. That is about 80% of it. In a couple weeks I am going down to my sisters and I plan to rescue as much as I can from her.

And WHAT IS THAT AVATAR?!?!?! I am just sitting here and completely distracted by it.
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#842 - 05/20/08 09:55 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: Tsunami3k]
Tom Kinnen Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tsunami3k
I've got a decent sized collection and I've look at various methods of tracking beyond the basics I currently use. Check out the Tracking Your Collection thread for some very simple but powerful software packages for doing this. I've also looked into USB barcode scanners and decent ones can be had for $50. Combined cost of software and scanner puts you right around $75 for a setup that will shrink a weekend long project into an hour or so.


I wound up getting a DVDProfiler and a barcode scanner and did 1.4K Titles in about 6 hours with only 10-20 needing research on SRP. I wund up paying retail for the scanner at staples since it was late at night but it was well worth it after doing about 1/2 of a shelf manually.

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#844 - 05/21/08 01:45 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: Tom Kinnen]
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Originally Posted By: Tom Kinnen
Originally Posted By: Tsunami3k
I've got a decent sized collection and I've look at various methods of tracking beyond the basics I currently use. Check out the Tracking Your Collection thread for some very simple but powerful software packages for doing this. I've also looked into USB barcode scanners and decent ones can be had for $50. Combined cost of software and scanner puts you right around $75 for a setup that will shrink a weekend long project into an hour or so.


I wound up getting a DVDProfiler and a barcode scanner and did 1.4K Titles in about 6 hours with only 10-20 needing research on SRP. I wund up paying retail for the scanner at staples since it was late at night but it was well worth it after doing about 1/2 of a shelf manually.






Thanks for posting that info. I have always been looking for a good quality program to track my collection but I didn't know what they were called. But when I did a Google on DVDProfiler the first hit is an AWESOME program. Now, I just need to get a barcode reader to fill out the info.

Considering the size of my room mates CD collection now I wonder if there is something similar to it he could use.
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#852 - 05/21/08 06:56 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: long time lurker]
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Originally Posted By: long time lurker

And WHAT IS THAT AVATAR?!?!?! I am just sitting here and completely distracted by it.
Did you see my post in the avatar thread? Its the main character from Xenogears. Its an old PS1 game made by the former SquareSoft.

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#858 - 05/21/08 07:16 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: Alpha_Zeon]
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yeah, I caught that. thanks
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#890 - 05/23/08 04:28 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: long time lurker]
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Originally Posted By: long time lurker
Because I have my policy with the same people as my car and truck I only pay $15 a month. I figured that 30 minutes worth of paycheck is worth covering my DVDs.


that was my setup with state farm because i had my car and renters insurance with them. now i have it split. car insurance with SF and rental insurance with LM.

i'm gonna have to look into that hardware and software since it sounds like it works as well as it says. anything to make my inventory easier and accurate smile

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#891 - 05/23/08 04:33 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: Alpha_Zeon]
otakuden Offline
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Originally Posted By: Alpha_Zeon
Insurance, hmm confused I've always wondered about that. I do have alot of moneys worth of anime dvds. I'll definetly have to look that up in the near future. This past month I've had tornados flying past where I live and now that I''ve read this I believe I should look into it. How much are you guys paying for insurance on your collections, and also the figures and collectibles.


when i was with SF i had $150,000 insured coverage with a $500 deductible. i only paid around $30 a month for it. a deal, imo.
with liberty mutual, i have $100,000 all-encompasing and am in the process of setting up a separate policy of $50,000 for my collectibles & breakables

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#1034 - 06/10/08 08:21 PM Re: rental Insurance [Re: otakuden]
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I must say I'm glad I'm not the only person who has their collection as a unique line-item on their policy.
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