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#44757 - 11/12/12 05:01 PM Re: Ristorante Paradiso [Re: Manhiem]
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Thanks, guys. I'll give that a try. smile

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#44938 - 11/14/12 08:44 PM Re: Ristorante Paradiso [Re: Manhiem]
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OK, with 4:3 letterbox, the menus and extras spilled over the screen to the left and right, but the episodes were fine - they had black bars at the top and bottom, but the whole picuture showed with no distortion.

4:3 pan and scan didn't change anything.

16:9 widescreen scrunched everything so that it appeared narrower than it should have. The menus and extras no longer went off screen to right and left. The episodes played full screen, but everything was distorted so that it looked compressed horizontally.

Just my opinion, but whoever set up the DVDs so that the menus and extras displayed differently than the episodes should be sacked.

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#44941 - 11/14/12 08:48 PM Re: Ristorante Paradiso [Re: Manhiem]
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The final editors of the home video release have just been sacked. And now... Llamas.
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#44943 - 11/14/12 08:53 PM Re: Ristorante Paradiso [Re: Manhiem]
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Originally Posted By: Manhiem
OK, with 4:3 letterbox, the menus and extras spilled over the screen to the left and right, but the episodes were fine - they had black bars at the top and bottom, but the whole picuture showed with no distortion.

4:3 pan and scan didn't change anything.

16:9 widescreen scrunched everything so that it appeared narrower than it should have. The menus and extras no longer went off screen to right and left. The episodes played full screen, but everything was distorted so that it looked compressed horizontally.

Just my opinion, but whoever set up the DVDs so that the menus and extras displayed differently than the episodes should be sacked.
BTW does your television have an "automatic" setting on the screen ratio? FWIW my Toshiba television, which is older than dirt, has 6 aspect ratio settings and an additional setting called "automatic", athough I don't like it very much. Once in a while it gets a little jumpy and chages the ratio for no apparent reason, but most of the time it works fairly well. Personally I never use it and try and figure out what aspect ratio to set manually. Anyhoo... I thought that setting your television's aspect ratio to automatic might help your plight.
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#44946 - 11/14/12 09:14 PM Re: Ristorante Paradiso [Re: Manhiem]
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Originally Posted By: Manhiem
16:9 widescreen scrunched everything so that it appeared narrower than it should have. The menus and extras no longer went off screen to right and left. The episodes played full screen, but everything was distorted so that it looked compressed horizontally.

I warned you about this in my previous post. It smashes everything in, but you don't see any black bars or cropping.

I was personally fine with this setting when I had my CRT TV, since I was so used to it.


Edited by joelgundam01 (11/14/12 09:16 PM)
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#44951 - 11/14/12 10:47 PM Re: Ristorante Paradiso [Re: Manhiem]
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@kiku
My TV doesn't have any of those settings. It came out before DVD players even existed, and there aren't a lot of settings that you can change digitally.

@joelgundam01
Yes, you did say that that could happen. And it did. frown

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#44954 - 11/14/12 11:10 PM Re: Ristorante Paradiso [Re: Manhiem]
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Whoa! Your TV is older than mine!? If it makes you feel any better, my DVD player is so old that it has a VHS deck in it.
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#44966 - 11/15/12 08:25 AM Re: Ristorante Paradiso [Re: joelgundam01]
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Originally Posted By: joelgundam01
Originally Posted By: Manhiem
16:9 widescreen scrunched everything so that it appeared narrower than it should have. The menus and extras no longer went off screen to right and left. The episodes played full screen, but everything was distorted so that it looked compressed horizontally.

I warned you about this in my previous post. It smashes everything in, but you don't see any black bars or cropping.

I was personally fine with this setting when I had my CRT TV, since I was so used to it.

That’s what I hate about the Flat Screen I got last Christmas.
The Screen doesn’t auto adjust for Regular TV viewing.
4:3 images are seen as filling the screen vertically, with black
bars left & right.
All other formats are seen as they should be but there is
black on all four sides of the picture.

So you have to manually adjust the Picture…
Normal ( 4:3 )
Letterbox
Zoom
Movie Expended
Wide

Etc, etc….
To get the best image for whatever format the TV program is showing.
( find the format that best fills the whole screen )
It will keep that format until you change it, so if you adjust it to watch a widescreen TV Movie
It will stay on widescreen even if you change channels or the next show is 4:3.

I have a 39 inch flat screen.. You do measure Diagonally to get your screen size Right ?
The width is 33 ¾ , and the Height is 19 ( 39 inch diagonally )
It's a Magnavox 39MF412B, to be exact.

If I just leave the setting on Normal for all TV programming, and the show is in 4:3 format than it 21¼ wide by 19 high
Normal ( 4:3 ) is the only format that automatically fills the Screen from Top to Bottom, but leaves black bars on the sides.
All other Formats appear as previously stated ( black bars all around the Image )

I pay for Regular Cable not Digital Cable.
( I don‘t have that Big Digital Box )
But the signal is now Digital, so I have a converter, it’s a little box about the same size as my Motorola DSL Modem.
It converts the signal to Digital, but doesn’t auto adjust the image like the full blown Digital Boxes do. ( at least I think they do... Do they ? )

However, watching Anime played in my Bluray and shown on the Flat Screen is GREAT!!!!
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#44969 - 11/15/12 11:15 AM Re: Ristorante Paradiso [Re: BWBODDY]
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Originally Posted By: BWBODDY
I pay for Regular Cable not Digital Cable.
( I don‘t have that Big Digital Box )
But the signal is now Digital, so I have a converter, it’s a little box about the same size as my Motorola DSL Modem.
It converts the signal to Digital, but doesn’t auto adjust the image like the full blown Digital Boxes do. ( at least I think they do... Do they ? )

There's your problem! Analog/Standard cable is standard definition (4:3, 480i) channels only. You might be able to pick up a few local network HD channels (depending if your cable company locked out the option or not), that your digital converter/tuner will be able to pick up but that's about it.

It doesn't matter if they come in an analog signal or digital signal. Standard definition is standard definition.

I have a 26" Hitachi HD TV and it has a built in digital tuner. When I had analog cable, I was able to pick up 8 digital HD channels (NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, CW, PBS, ION and WGN America), since my local cable company didn't lock out the local HD channels. The HD channels were in 16:9 (depending on the show) and were either in 720p or 1080i.

My TV has a few fillers that gets rid of grain, static and color bleeding. This really made the analog channels (all in SD) look really good compared to my SDTV. However, I had to manually change the aspect ratio, if I wanted full screen. Either I selected Full/16:9 (for black bars on the sides) or Zoom (for black bars on all four side).

Last June, I switched to Dish and I get a lot of HD channels and the satellite box has a built in upscaler for the SD channels. Again, I need to manually adjust the aspect ratio on the box, but it remembers the ratio setting for each channel.

Edit: To prevent us from going off topic any further. If you want to talk more about this BW. Feel free to shoot me a PM.


Edited by joelgundam01 (11/15/12 11:27 AM)
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#45154 - 11/20/12 10:40 AM Re: Ristorante Paradiso [Re: Manhiem]
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@Manheim Hi, there! I wanted to give you a heads up that I just sent a quick PM your way.

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