What's the temperature in your home? Does it stay consistent? Does it get really warm? Do you have AC?


It should, considering that the current Slim units don't have the 3.00 firmware in it either. They were manufactured before the update was rolled out.

No, the room temperature wasn't a factor. I'm a very hot natured person, so my apartment feels like a meat locker to most of my guests. In the Summer, my central AC is either all way the down or pretty close to it. Also, it hasn't been very hot outside, lately (Nashville area). The PS3 was hot to the touch (top left, toward the back), but it's been that way since the day I brought it home.



Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks! I figured they'd have 3.00 built-in.

I found some suggestions for getting my disc out, so if that works, I might be O.K. while my other PS3 is getting fixed (reports suggest it can take weeks). I also found some D.I.Y. instructions for repairing the unit, but I'd rather pay a professional. Besides, they refer to the "Yellow Light Of Death," which I haven't seen (yet).

Did your sacrifice to the Parthenon help or are you still waiting for Athena to decide what to do?

I guess you don't care about BC then? I'd try to send it in for a fix if it was indeed the 60 GB version, but that's just me. And I personally think the slim is ugly.

THOSE ARE EXCELLENT!
I've got one in every room of my home & I love them! 100% worth it!

If you think that it's your hard drive that crashed how will you be able to download or acess the files on there? Wouldn't that mean that whatever was on there is totally gone by now?

Even if the HDD is okay, transferring it over to another PS3 is impossible (I think). When you pop it in and start the new PS3 it will make your format it before you can do anything.

I was joking. ..I saw that they were a bit over a grand a piece & figured I'd poke some fun.

I remember reading about it on another forum from a user who went through a similar experience as yours. Apparently it has something to do with the HDD being associated with the console ID. I dunno though, you'd have to test it out yourself or dig up the info on the internet.

Hopefully it works out for you though...

..You can't use a seperate external harddrive?
I know for a fact that you can transfer save games for some games (I personally did so for Heavenly Sword a whiiiiile back). I used a USB stick to accomplish this.

Yes, I know that, and I've done that. But try that with the Demon's Souls save data and see what happens. Some save data can be backed up only with a complete backup of the hard drive. On some games, they don't want users sharing data. It sucks, but that's the way it is. Even on the Game Cube, the save data for F-Zero GX couldn't be copied from one memory card to another, but most other games allowed it.


Not for the normal saving of game data, but you can use a USB hard drive or flash drive for backing up save data for games that allow save data to be copied. The external hard drive is what I use to backup the entire PS3 hard drive, but that helps ONLY when the PS3 hard drive crashes (which is not my problem) and you have to replace it (or when simply upgrading to a larger hard drive). I have an external 500GB drive formatted to FAT32 just for PS3 backups via USB.

I seem to have a motherboard problem, which is supposed to be fixable.

lammmme

Just an FYI, the PS3 HDD is encrypted with a key unique to each console which is why you can't transfer HDDs between units.

Probably has something to do with the trophy system.

The system was designed to prevent piracy and homebrewing. At least that's what I've read from developer blogs.

I suspect it has more to do with the DRM on the game and other media content.


It has always been that way. The PS2 HDD also required a reformat anytime the drive was placed in a different console. At least the PS3 doesn't require a special HDD too.

I have already had to replace my PS3 and my Xbox 360 one time per system.But the Wii lives on i wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that i hardly ever play it.

I have a Black Gamcube and it has been through the ringer i got it probably around the time they came out.
It doesn't even look black anymore its like faded black t-shirt color and its got chips and dings all over it.
But it still runs like it did the day i got it.

It's possible that they have a workaround for those that have broken down systems. Such as contacting their CS and speak to a supervisor that has access to overriding PSN accounts.

That and they are using existing hardware, that's been fully tuned. Both the 360 and PS3 are using hardware, that hadn't rolled out in market at the time.

In other words, we were their testers to a certain extent. Personally, that's why I held off buying a PS3 until now (buying one in November).

My brother still uses the GC to this day and has never had any problems. The older Nintendo consoles we have all still work good. It's funny how out of the newest gaming consoles 2 out of 3 have already had problems. Aren't Sony and Microsoft supposed to have the big reputations for reliability and yet their gaming consoles glitch up like crazy? Even my Xbox (not 360) never really worked right from day one. They put the wrong person in charge of QC?

For Sony, yes! At least for their electronics division, their computer division has always been a hit or miss.

For Microsoft, no when it comes to hardware.

That's what i don't understand. These are companies that deal in the computer/electronic world and have made a name for themselves (for good or bad). They should know by now that computers get hot and need to be kept cool and yet when you put that technology into a gaming system w/o having a good way to keep it cool...

Yeah, but they also know that no one is going to pay $800-$1,000 for a console. They cut corners to cut down the costs, but in the end Sony was still paying $800 ($300 loss) to manufacture the 20GB units and $850 ($250 loss) to manufacture the $600.

Just how much cost are they going to lose by putting in a little fan in the consloe or just doing a little redesining to the console itself?

The problem is that cooling fans wouldn't completely do the job for the PS3. They adopted a new cooling system and of course, there were bound to be problems with it. It was either this new technology or liquid cooling.

BTW, liquid cooling isn't cheap. The cooling blocks alone go for $50 each. I used liquid cooling in the past for my PC, it cost me over $200 to get a efficient system.

I actually decided to build my own liquid cooling system, because of the price. In the end, I still needed two (stealth) fans to get rid of the excess (warm) air.

That's the problem with these high tech systems. They require a lot of cooling, but there really isn't a simple solution to the problem. Sony's new cooling system actually works pretty well in the newer units. The biggest problem with the original units was the internal power supply. The slims have an external adapter, which drops the heat output of the system quite a bit.

If you look around on Youtube, I bet you can find a video or two on the innards of the PS3 and PS3 Slim. The cooling system is pretty huge in both systems.

That's asking a bit much IMO, considering that many of the breakdowns are occurring 2-3 years after the system has been purchased. What could Sony do? Delay the system for two years to make sure the cooling system doesn't breakdown?

Not to mention, it's hard to test out every possibility. Some homes have poor wiring, which can put some strain on the power supply (creating more heat). Let's not forget the location where you live and where you put your system at. Both can play a major role and let's not forget some people's "neglect" for better terms.

I'm not aiming these at anyone particular. There's just so many factors, that can cause the system to overheat and it may not be the power supply.


I don't either! The latest computer I built is completely Solid State and very power efficient.

Lovvvvvvve my laptop.

Wasn't quite sure where to put this but since this topic deals with blu ray players...

Are the blu ray players divx encoded? My dvd player was bought for that reason so i could watch some of the cd-r's and whatnot on the tv. Do blu players have this option as well or just the regular dvd players?

when you are shopping, different players will play different file types/burn types.
Don't assume that all DVD players can play the same codecs as every other DVD player.
Same goes for Bluray players.

I know that they play different codecs w/ dvd players i was just wondering if the blu ray players had this option as well, or it was just standard/blu dvd's that they play.

Blu-ray players are only required to play back BD-Video media (with a BD-Rom water mark) with an average bit rate of 40Mbps or less. The files must be encoded with MPEG-2, H.264 (MPEG-4), VC-1. The audio support is more dependent but the older formats of Dolby Digital, DTS, and PCM are required by the Blu-ray specification. As for disks, DVD-Video and CD-Audio support are not guaranteed by the Blu-ray specification, but the inclusion of DVD-Video is highly recommended by the consortium.

I have two Bly-ray compatible players, both profile 2, a Sony Playstation 3, and an Oppo Digital BDP-83. Both add the ability to play DVD-video, CD-Audio, and files off of data disks and USB mass storage devices. The PS3 also has the ability to stream from DLNA servers. The oppo has several more supported containers and formats than the PS3 but a heftier price tag too.

Since I don't recall if you've done this, have you contacted Sony for repair? They did well on my PS1 when it died from sitting on the carpet under the TV table.

Just more of a suggestion from personal experience in other fields. A lot of businesses try to avoid confusing their customers and would rather have them think in the worse case scenario, then having them think that everything is possible.

Never hurts to ask. Good luck!

From my experiences with Sony (most of my home theater components are Sony, and have been from 1993-present), is that if you can find an authorized warranty service center (or are willing to send it back to them) they will fix anything that is current technology but you will have to pay for it.

A few quick searches said that it would be $150 for a YLOD repair from Sony.

I never trust any 3rd party repair shops unless they offer free return shipping (a video camera repair place I go through offers that).

that sucks. usually they've been better about that kind of thing.

"Sorry your $600 console don't work but,look, for $300 (more) you get a new slimline version!" Talk about bad buisness. What are your thoughts about Sony now?

So how did the save game transfer go? Were you able to rescue any of them?

My original JP 60GB PS3 died about a year ago. Obviously SCEA wouldn't touch it, and I wasn't trying to pay $150 to get it repaired with just a 30 extended warranty anyway, as I've heard of many repaired PS3s dying again shortly after being revived. Luckily some people still really want 60GB JP PS3s, so I was able to sell my broken system for $400 (and yes, I let them know it was broken) and used that to buy the LE Gunmetal MGS4 PS3. Hopefully that never gives me any trouble because I have no interest in the hideous slim, and Sony really needs to lower their repair fee and extended the not so extended warranty.

Have you ever thought of getting a refurbished PS3? I know that places like gamestop and others do that with the consoles that come in from users that don't want (or use or whatever) them. The local store here has the refurbished 360 for under $200. So i thought i'd ask and see if you had at least condiderd that as an option.

I just sold it on ebay, yours is Japanese too?

Yeah the Japanese models go for more... You can buy refurbished 60GB US models from GameStop for $330... http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=64006

Gamestop does their own refurbishing, which is partly why I personally steer clear of their used/refurbished systems. I don't recall one good outcome every time I've tried with something that wasn't brand new.

The ones around here won't take RROD'd xboxes I know for sure. So I think they'll only take a consoles that have minor problems. Not sure if its the same everywhere else. I do know they take a big chunk off if they have to fix it tho.

Most Gamestop "refurbishing" of PS3's = reformatted HDD and then packed into a clam pack with a controller and cables.

I thought PS3 games were region free? Although I've never tried it.

Ok, why would you, or anyone, want a Japanese PS3? If its all region free.

PS3 games may be region free, but the PS2 and PS1 games, along with DVD movies aren't.

The original Japaese PS3 models were able to play Japanese PS2 games, PS1 games, R2 DVDs.

Exactly. I bought a JP PS3 mostly to play Japanese PS2/1 games.

OH ok, now I get it LOL. I wonder where I could go to get import PS3 games.

There are several import sites available online, such as Play-Asia.

Note: I'm not going to supply a link, since I'm not sure if it will violate the forum rules or not.

Play-Asia

Thanks I'll look into it.