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#13109 - 09/09/09 10:12 PM Re: Sony PS3 Crashed [Re: Gevin]
Stefanie Offline
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Originally Posted By: Gevin
I know for a fact that you can transfer save games for some games (I personally did so for Heavenly Sword a whiiiiile back). I used a USB stick to accomplish this.

Yes, I know that, and I've done that. But try that with the Demon's Souls save data and see what happens. Some save data can be backed up only with a complete backup of the hard drive. On some games, they don't want users sharing data. It sucks, but that's the way it is. Even on the Game Cube, the save data for F-Zero GX couldn't be copied from one memory card to another, but most other games allowed it.

Originally Posted By: Gevin
..You can't use a seperate external harddrive?

Not for the normal saving of game data, but you can use a USB hard drive or flash drive for backing up save data for games that allow save data to be copied. The external hard drive is what I use to backup the entire PS3 hard drive, but that helps ONLY when the PS3 hard drive crashes (which is not my problem) and you have to replace it (or when simply upgrading to a larger hard drive). I have an external 500GB drive formatted to FAT32 just for PS3 backups via USB.

I seem to have a motherboard problem, which is supposed to be fixable.

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#13121 - 09/10/09 03:22 PM Re: Sony PS3 Crashed [Re: Stefanie]
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#13122 - 09/10/09 03:29 PM Re: Sony PS3 Crashed [Re: Gevin]
Stefanie Offline
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Tell me about it. Sony is so worried about preventing players from sharing saved data that the legit users who have equipment failures are getting the shaft. Marrying the console, hard drive, and profile together is just silly, not to mention paranoid.

Also, the third parties who make their game save data copy-proof are just as lame. Backups are a fact of life.

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#13124 - 09/10/09 05:29 PM Re: Sony PS3 Crashed [Re: Stefanie]
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Just an FYI, the PS3 HDD is encrypted with a key unique to each console which is why you can't transfer HDDs between units.
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#13126 - 09/10/09 08:53 PM Re: Sony PS3 Crashed [Re: WhtHawk]
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Probably has something to do with the trophy system.
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#13127 - 09/10/09 10:07 PM Re: Sony PS3 Crashed [Re: WhtHawk]
Stefanie Offline
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Originally Posted By: WhtHawk
Just an FYI, the PS3 HDD is encrypted with a key unique to each console which is why you can't transfer HDDs between units.

Yep, that's what I read in a few different places. I never expected anything that dumb, but there it is.

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#13128 - 09/10/09 10:20 PM Re: Sony PS3 Crashed [Re: Stefanie]
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Originally Posted By: Stefanie
Originally Posted By: WhtHawk
Just an FYI, the PS3 HDD is encrypted with a key unique to each console which is why you can't transfer HDDs between units.

Yep, that's what I read in a few different places. I never expected anything that dumb, but there it is.


The system was designed to prevent piracy and homebrewing. At least that's what I've read from developer blogs.

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#13130 - 09/10/09 10:28 PM Re: Sony PS3 Crashed [Re: Gevin]
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Originally Posted By: Gevin
Probably has something to do with the trophy system.
I suspect it has more to do with the DRM on the game and other media content.

Originally Posted By: Stefanie
Originally Posted By: WhtHawk
Just an FYI, the PS3 HDD is encrypted with a key unique to each console which is why you can't transfer HDDs between units.

Yep, that's what I read in a few different places. I never expected anything that dumb, but there it is.

It has always been that way. The PS2 HDD also required a reformat anytime the drive was placed in a different console. At least the PS3 doesn't require a special HDD too.


Edited by WhtHawk (09/10/09 10:30 PM)
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#13142 - 09/11/09 06:42 AM Re: Sony PS3 Crashed [Re: joelgundam01]
Stefanie Offline
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Originally Posted By: joelgundam01
The system was designed to prevent piracy and homebrewing. At least that's what I've read from developer blogs.

It's what I've read, as well. But, it makes sense only if Sony produces reliable hardware that doesn't fail. It's more important to keep players from losing well-earned data than it is to prevent cheating, piracy, and homebrewing. Paying customers and legitimate gamers should be the first consideration. Instead, Sony chose to be stupid, at the expense of the PS3's own fan base. {/soapbox}

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#13143 - 09/11/09 06:44 AM Re: Sony PS3 Crashed [Re: WhtHawk]
Stefanie Offline
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Originally Posted By: WhtHawk
It has always been that way. The PS2 HDD also required a reformat anytime the drive was placed in a different console. At least the PS3 doesn't require a special HDD too.

I knew the PS2 hard drive was different, but I didn't know it was married to the PS2 console. Silly...

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